We asked Baily Hancock for a quick convo to find out how she got into the business of inspiring collaboration and how she stays true to her goals. Want to know more? Sign up for her July 18 workshop!
You’ve worn a lot of different hats in your career because of you “choose your own adventure” attitude. What would you tell someone who’s afraid to change career paths or try new avenues?
People get stuck in things because they’re afraid of what else could be there. Life is too short to have a job you hate or don’t feel continuously inspired by! The worst that can happen is you quit and get a new job. Nothing is forever, good or bad. You can be pessimistic or optimistic, but if you consider that things you love— friendships, jobs, relationships— won’t last forever, and then consider things you hate, those won’t last forever either. It behooves you to be ballsy and go for something that could be better. Everything’s a learning opportunity, so there’s no downside.
You definitely have a lot going on! How do you approach time management and set aside time for relaxation?
It’s an everyday challenge. I can feel a bit schizo for sure, because I have two different businesses and I like to travel. I’m definitely a multi passionate! I have a lot of things that interest me and I don’t like to have to pick. I try to build in my own anchors so that regardless of what I’m working on there’s still consistently. Every day I try to go on a 45 minute walk, no phone or headphones. Knowing that [that walk] will happen during the day keeps me on track. I make the same breakfast every day. I have these anchors and I let the rest of the day fill in the blanks. I can do what I want each day technically, but it can feel overwhelming because when you can do anything, it can be very easy to just do nothing. I have calendars, to do list, weekly goals hanging over my desk... I make sure there’s time to get it all done. I’m also in a goal group where we check in with each other every Sunday night. Otherwise, time flies. Weeks and months go by and suddenly you’re in a new year and you might not have gotten to any of your goals. It’s takes a lot of reoccurring accountability.
What are the common roadblocks you encounter when trying to foster collaboration for a new client or your own projects? How do you solve them?
I think it usually comes down to being really clear from the get go about your goals and their goals. When I first started doing partnerships, I had a tendency to want to please everyone I was talking to and gloss over what I wanted out of it. That would turn into an over-promise, under-deliver situation. We have to ask them what their top 2-3 goals are so we can figure a way to support them, and tell them what we are focused on to do what we need to do. The more you practice that, the easier it becomes and you don’t feel guilty about saying “we need x, y, and z.”
People value someone who is up front. It’s just better for everybody. It’s that way with almost anything. It sucks to have to say no, and that’s where being creative really comes in. I’ve started out hoping for one thing and ended up getting something different, but it comes down to how much you want to work together. There’s probably some piece you can find that allows you to work together. A lot of times resources are not vast so we need to be strategic. When you’e making your own schedule, time is everything. You have to be honest with yourself and make sure the juice is worth the squeeze.
Do you listen to music while you work? What tracks inspire you?
It depends on what I need to have happen. When was building the Career Experiment and needed to be creative, I listen to BØRNS or Moon Taxi radio on Spotify. When I really want to focus in and get a ton of work done, I listen to trap or electronic. It’s incredibly high energy. Mura Masa is pretty intense, multi-instrumental electronic. Anything super loud and aggressive works really well when I’m trying to crank through emails.
You have a bunch of exciting events at MVAD this summer! If you had to choose one word to describe what you want people to gain from your workshop, what would that word be and why?
Commiseration, because with all of them— networking, collaboration, being multi-passionate— most people actually don’t like the topic. I’m getting people to come together who feel uncomfortable.
With collaboration, people know they’d rather work with others because it’s more fruitful. With multi-passionates, they feel very isolated and alone because they have so many interests. I want to open people’s eyes to the fact that they’re not alone and that there are other people doing what their doing. They could work together to feel more in control and successful.
Commiseration feels really good when you work for yourself. High performing women feel alone unless they build in situation to come together with other women. You can’t always talk to your significant other about what’s going on at work. At the end of the day, that’s something really important for people to have in their lives. We’re all in this together.